Big Gurus Strike Back… and Called Newbies Cat-Slappers?
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Nothing personal here and here. In fact, I emailed Jeremy Gislason who I consider a friend as he’s one of the first few guys who helped me when I was just starting. I’ve promoted Simon Hodgkinson’s products before and earned some commissions. But no personal contacts whatsoever. JP Schoeffel, I don’t wanna say anything…
But here’s the email broadcast of Simon and he just called us “angry cat slappers”… hmm, why don’t we get that as a domain name?NOT!
Anyway, I’m even publishing their bonuses’ domain name with a LIVE LINK!
For me, John Delavera’s “Turbo Big Bang!” is a huge value itself and from whoever you get your bonuses, it’s your choice…
But as a WARNING, here’s what Gabor Olah says about it:
“I KNOW that you don’t need any more “fancy-looking” products “worth $10,000.
You have GOBS of those sitting on your hard drive, unused.
C’mon, be honest now…
Those will just hold you back.“
OOPS! Here’s the email the big boys sent. Nothing personal, I just wanna share to my readers what’s happening…
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Simon Hodgkinson wrote:
Hi Ian
I sent you an email yesterday to let you know
that John Delavera’s ‘Turbo Big Bang’ event
had launched - I hope you spotted it?If so, you know that I’d teamed up with Jeremy
and JP so we could pool our bonuses and give
you the biggest deal when you grabbed John’s
offer via our link…We even put this huge bonus on a new domain
name that matched the size of our offer
http://www.BiggerBetterBonus.com Now if you already ordered I just wanted to
say a big ‘thank you’ - (Your bonus info will
be sent directly to you on the 28th no claim
forms to fill in or anything like that)And with your support we are
currently in the
#1 position in John’s JV competition…In fact - Because of this bonus we’ve generated
three times more sales than the 2nd place person
on the board*** Yes triple the number of sales ***
and boy is he feeling ‘angry’ about it
He declared a ‘war’ to beat us
Certainly sounds like an aggressive kind of
guy don’t you think :)DUDE TAKE A CHILL PILL
LOL and after he finished his war dance and
slapped his cat around (or whatever he does
to relax… We don’t know?) he mailed his
pals and begged them to help him beat usHe’s building an ‘army’
(perhaps of more angry cat slappers?)
He would probably have been better spending
his time and energy into putting together a
bigger and better bonus offer like this one:==>>> http://www.BiggerBetterBonus
.com Anyway if you missed all the action take a
look today - We suspect John’s about to go
even crazier this weekand yes we need your ‘vote’ to keep
Mr Angry
and his mob of ‘cat slappers’ at bayTo Your Success
Simon Hodgkinson
AffiliateEnhancer.comPS We do not believe any cats where actually
harmed in the creation of this email but we
cannot be 100% certain ;)all we do know for sure is this
==>>> http://www.BiggerBetterBonus
.com does exactly what it says on the tin :)
What can I say about it? First, my army here is NOT an angry troop. We’re just hopeful little guys who believe in ourselves. To HOPE is the best free thing ANYONE can do anyway. And I thought you’re online to “help” these little guys?
:)
Ian del Carmen
PS: But what can YOU say about it? You can post below, no worries…
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:26 am
OOPS! I thought it’s only Simon who sent it out, looks like Jeremy is also into it? So I emailed John Delavera:
I hate this marketing ploy but since it’s already here… :)
———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Jeremy & Simon
Date: Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:10 AM
Subject: Angry Guy Slaps Cat! - Is this really war?
To: Ian del Carmen
Hi Ian
We sent you an email yesterday to let you
know that John Delavera’s ‘Turbo Big Bang’
event had launched - hope you spotted it?
If so you know that we’d teamed up and
pooled our bonuses because we wanted
to give you the biggest bonus when you
grabbed John’s deal via our link…
We even put the offer on a domain name
that matched the bonus
==>>> XXXXX
Now if you already ordered we wanted to
say a big thank you - With your help we
are currently in the #1 position on John’s
JV board
In fact because of that bonus we generated
three times more sales than the 2nd Place
person in the competition
*** Yes triple the number of sales ***
and boy is he feeling ‘angry’ about it
He declared a ‘WAR’ to beat us
Certainly sounds like an aggressive kind of
guy don’t you think :)
DUDE TAKE A CHILL PILL
LOL and after he finished his war dance and
slapped his cat around (or whatever he does
to relax.. we don’t know?) he mailed his pals
and begged them to help him beat us
Yes he’s building an army
(perhaps of other cat slappers)
He would probably have been better spending
his time putting together a great bonus pack
like this one
==>>> XXXXX
You see we went for a bigger, better bonus
See how the domain ties in :)
Because we wanted to make Turbo John’s offer
a complete ‘No Brainer’ - John’s already worked
his magic so we wanted to offer you the best
value
and it’s all here for the taking…
==>>> XXXXX
Anyway if you missed all the action take a look
now and secure your place because we suspect
John’s about to go even crazier this week
And your vote counts here so we can keep
Mr Angry and his mob of fellow cat slappers
at bay
To Your Success
Jeremy & Simon
MembershipMillionaire.com
PS We do not believe any cats where actually
harmed in the creation of this email but we
cannot be 100% certain ;)
all we know for sure is this
==>>> XXXXX
does exactly what it says on the tin :)
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Hi Ian, I think this is a quality product and there’s no reason for “wars”. If I can choose whom I’d buy the package from - it’s you! :-)
All the best!
~Marian
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:31 am
I think it’s funny!
I do believe that we should “all” help whenever we can, and in most cases, however we can. I “try” to do that as much as possible.
Onward, and upward…
Be Well!
ECS Dave of ExtraCashSystems.com
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:31 am
Since I’m on their list and have been a regular customer (yes, no freebies! I pay for what I buy from them), I found another email from my inbox…
This time, it’s the trio…
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
D4M Members - Angry Guy Slaps Cat! - Is this really war?
May 18th, 2008
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Hi Ian
We sent you an email yesterday to let you
know that John Delavera’s ‘Turbo Big Bang’
event had launched - hope you spotted it?
If so you know that we’d teamed up and
pooled our bonuses because we wanted
to give you the biggest bonus when you
grabbed John’s deal via our link…
We even put the offer on a domain name
that matched the bonus
==>>> XXXXX
Now if you already ordered we wanted to
say a big thank you - With your help we
are currently in the #1 position on John’s
JV board
In fact because of that bonus we generated
three times more sales than the 2nd Place
person in the competition
*** Yes triple the number of sales ***
and boy is he feeling ‘angry’ about it
He declared a ‘WAR’ to beat us
Certainly sounds like an aggressive kind of
guy don’t you think :)
DUDE TAKE A CHILL PILL
LOL and after he finished his war dance and
slapped his cat around (or whatever he does
to relax.. we don’t know?) he mailed his pals
and begged them to help him beat us
Yes he’s building an army
(perhaps of other cat slappers)
He would probably have been better spending
his time putting together a great bonus pack
like this one
==>>> XXXXX
You see we went for a bigger, better bonus
See how the domain ties in :)
Because we wanted to make Turbo John’s offer
a complete ‘No Brainer’ - John’s already worked
his magic so we wanted to offer you the best
value
and it’s all here for the taking…
==>>> XXXXX
Anyway if you missed all the action take a look
now and secure your place because we suspect
John’s about to go even crazier this week
And your vote counts here so we can keep
Mr Angry and his mob of fellow cat slappers
at bay
To Your Success
Jeremy, Simon, & JP
PS We do not believe any cats where actually
harmed in the creation of this email but we
cannot be 100% certain ;)
all we know for sure is this
==>>> XXXXX
does exactly what it says on the tin :)
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:34 am
It seems human nature never fails. Once one gets in a position of financial
comfort, the difficulties of the former daily existence cease to remind them
to be grateful for what they have.
Another ‘war’ on the internet? Over products? It’s hardly a ‘Coke vs Pepsi’
thing! There is enough to deal with from the technological aspect - we
don’t need ‘product wars’ to confuse customers any more than they
already are….
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:38 am
Hi Ian,
I have received that email too…
If they called us “cat slappers”, let’s go and slap
those little cats that call themselves “BIG GURUS” (lol)…
Best Regards,
Paul
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:51 am
dude! I thought this was a friendly war-war thingy.
I hope none of you take it personally.lol.
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May 19th, 2008 at 5:55 am
NOTHING PERSONAL really. The way things are moving, “the one with the BEST UNSURPASSED VALUE for money DEAL” will win hands down. I for one, have teamed up with Ian so that those “big cats” will make a run for this showdown. LOL.
And oh yes! No silly, liitle cats were harmed while making out this post! :)
Way to go Ian!
A Raving Pinoy fan.
~rommel
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:04 am
Hey, Ian, I too thought it was a friendly little contest!
Y’know, my first impression was it was all PRE-arranged - but then, I thought
maybe not… just two hyper-competitive affiliate teams going for the top spot!
To tell the truth, I read your bonus offer when you sent the email about the
4 letter domain name - and was SORELY tempted… except there was no way
to tell if I’d be the first to order! So, from sheer value, that super-duper top
bonus blows the socks off everything else.
I love the way both sides have gone about adding value to John Turbo Delavera’s
already value-choked package - so there can simply NOT be any losers, no matter
whose bonus they choose to buy for!
Hope you, Simon, Jeremy and JP make a HUGE affiliate commission check - it’s
an inspiration to watch you guys pull out the stops and go for the big prize! We’re
all watching and cheering… Go, go… GO!!!!!
:)
All success
Dr.Mani
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:13 am
So you guys are having what - a “week-long” war till this promotion is over, you guys play both sides to the middle, and move on to the next product?
Not sure if I’d be complaining, after all, with your income claims on several projects, do you “really” consider yourself “the little guy” anymore?
Last time I checked - a “five figure income - month in - month out” is not really what us little guys consider normal.
Face it - you’re NOT “the little guy”, and probably make $10-$20K off of this on promotion alone, even BEFORE your controversy marketing ploy.
Grow up!
Larry Reynolds
“Always Watching”
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:15 am
Well…Well…Well what can I say. Just another ploy to milk hard earned money from gullible newbies. I was there once. I have enough ebooks and stuff in my hard drive to keep me in business for years, if I really though it was worth selling. I’m just sick to see that there are still people (”Guru’s) out there using this stupid tactics. I see at least there are some people out there who are thankfull for their success and offering their knowledge for free. All the so called Guru’s should take note. Thanks to Jeff Johnson and company my business is starting to show some positive signs. Well I could slap some Big cat’s right now, but I won’t lower my self. Sorry for ranting here Ian just had to get some stuff off my chest and your email was the first i read.
Rick
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:17 am
Hi Ian,
I’m not a cat slapper. At least I don’t think so. :)
But I do admire you… I LOVE your enthusiasm, can-do attitude, and belief that everyone can achieve online success.
You make me believe in my abilities.
And for that I appreciate what you do.
Hopefully see you in Bali.
Stay on Fire
Martin
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Hey Ian,
This is all in fun, right?
I mean Simon and Jeremy are two of the absolute most ethical and honest guys around. And so are you.
I got the emails from both you (yours as well as simon/jeremy).
C’mon tell us that you guys are just kidding around. There is no “war” and there are no hurt feelings, correct?
I mean you are both affiliates of a high priced product. You each want to make sales. So this is being done to just stir the pot. Right?
I guess alls fair in love, war and affiliate marketing…
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Hey Ian,
I just found this whole thing amusing.
Just be careful to keep your eyes on the objective - make sales. And in this highly competitive world of internet marketing, we need a clear head to think of strategies. Can’t be too emotionally involved personal flames.
Besides, we can’t be onion-skinned in this business. People being people, will most likely misunderstand and say stuff we don’t like. Possibly just like we may have in the past ;)
Cheers!
Ricardo
P.S. - Remember your showbiz days? All this intrigue can only benefit one person. Don’t think it’s going to be you, Jeremy, or Simon. Care to guess who? :)
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:26 am
mmm,
Firstly,
I have 4 cats & if anyone wants to Slap them, well Guru or Not your going Down!
Secondly, as I roll around Laughing,
Newbies put Guru’s where they are, by Purchasing their Products over a Period of Time.
Whether the Products were as Good as stated or used is anyones guess, but the money was collected.
FACT:
And please correct me if I am wrong,
Guru’s Started out as Newbies,
Or are we to believe that Guru’s were Already Guru’s When they first came to the Internet?
In that case I think I’ll call my Next Cat, Guru!
Calling Newbies that click their mouse button to pay Hard earned Money to “The Guru”
Is Like biting the hand that feeds you, don’t you think?
Lastly, No I did not come to Help Ian to War with anyone,
I believe that in Numbers we can Achieve, or do the Guru’s believe that you can do it Alone?
IF so why join other Guru’s to Achieve what you have set out to do?
Epilogue:
IF anyone takes any of this Seriously, call 911, Help is on it’s way!
lol
Take Care Everyone, & for God’s Sake Lighten up:)
Friends of Ian
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May 19th, 2008 at 6:33 am
Well, as long as there’s no Hamster Slapping going on. But, I’ll be keeping an eye on this. Better not bring any of my furball friends into it.
Kevin Riley, Friends Of The Hamsters
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May 19th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Hi Ian
Some spices on our little dishes are no harm at all.
LOL
Send them an email back that say
“hi I dare ya for one-for-one combat? what do you say?” :-)
To be honest, I’ve sniffed a conspiracy since long time ago!
Just my honest question for you Ian:
what would you say if you were on their team since in the beginning? :-)
Success for your campaign
Sudarmaji Lamiran
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May 19th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Guys, one thing is for sure. When I started to build this “hopeful” troop, I don’t have a marketing ploy in mind. I just want “newbies” to BELIEVE in themselves…
As I said: “To HOPE is the best free thing ANYONE can do anyway.”
And yes, as compared to them, I’m still a little guy. I haven’t done any 6-figure day or product launch and as you see, I just made 1/3 of their sales. Compare also my list to them, I’m gonna look like a rat…
And nope, this is NOT a pre-arranged war. Yes, for me it’s a friendly competition. See, I even posted their LIVE LINK to their bonuses so you can take a look, compare, and decide for yourself…
Now, what if I dare Jeremy, Simon, and JP to go publish this URL with LIVE LINKS for their people to visit, take a look, compare, and decide upon?
http://TurboBIGBangBONUS.com
Will they do it? I can feel they won’t… DARE!
Ian del Carmen
PS: Everyone who knows me can see how I look while these things happen. Still cool… :)
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May 19th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
One marketer YM’ed me asking why did I put their bonus link here. I said I’m just confident people would see who has the biggest value…
Check out each of their bonuses FIRST because you might already have them. They might “seem” a new one but in fact, only got a new makeover through a brand new graphic… (Gabor also warned ya about it!)
Oh, and if you like their bonus and mine, I’d be happy to get their bonus for you…
Bottomline, do yourself a favor and take a look at how you and your business will benefit from John Delavera and his Delaverian Marketing Method, ContePass CMS, and Turbo Mass Media…
Opening your eyes,
Ian del Carmen
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May 19th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Hey Ian,
I’ve been around long enough to know that this kind of “sniping” goes on all the time when one of the “rich boys” launches a new product. I think that because the products are promoted to the “gang” first before actual release there is so much competition to be number 1 that the “gang” (they know who they are) will climb all over anyone who threatens to dethrone them. All of the folks in the “gang” make less by promoting to their lists, but they get “bragging rights” that they can then hold up to their list members to prove they are the best in the business. And that keeps most people from really succeeding in this market, notwithstanding a few do make it to the top.
My thoughts on this email? More of the same old same old.
Regards,
Jay
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May 19th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Hi Ian,
We salute you, great marketing tactics!!
We’re game,
we are ready to give away one 1 audiobook per costumer
from our site as a bonus. (a book on stress management)
Cheers,
Pat
http://AudiobookOn.com
World Leader in Audiobooks
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June 23rd, 2008 at 4:01 am
Very interesting to watch from the sidelines….
Matt
http://www.PositivelyMary.com
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